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Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

Last post 05-13-2008, 9:25 PM by Mike2. 4 replies.
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  •  04-04-2008, 6:12 AM 1320

    Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

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    We have been seeing more and more evidence of argon depletion in insulated windows. Normally windows show an "edge loss" signature or, if the seal if broken, the entire window is affected. Argon depletion shows up—about 5-10 years after the window is installed—as a thermal anomaly in the center of the window. Summer images and images taken from inside show similar patterns but different heat flow. As the argon, a small-molecule, escapes out the seal (due to gas pressure equalization), air components (larger molecules) cannot make their way back in.

     

    The result, in larger windows, is a bowing of the two panes of glass together; on smaller units there is less give and the windows often implode. When I showed the building owner the attached image yesterday, he said "I wondered how those three windows got broken last fall!"

     

    Window manufacturers will often replace windows still under warranty showing this kind of signature—especially with a thermal signature as evidence. My colleague, Rob Spring, and I wrote a paper on the topic if anyone would like further reading.

     

    And, yes, there are significant problems in this building with the insulation too! We are seeing a pattern related to air leakage past fiberglass insulation and, at the top, the icicles that result from similarly caused heat loss in the roof sections.



    Thermally Yours,

    John
    ASNT NDT Level III #48166
    The Snell Group
    www.thesnellgroup.com
    www.thermalsolutions.org
    800-636-9820
  •  04-04-2008, 10:01 AM 1322 in reply to 1320

    Re: Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

    I would like a copy of this paper please John, I have come across this problem before, but in my experiance it relates to manufacturing and installation problems.
  •  04-04-2008, 12:27 PM 1324 in reply to 1320

    Re: Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

    I would like that too, John.  Please forward it to deronjohnston@gmail.com.

     

    Thanks for you comments on the asphalt roads thread, btw. 

  •  04-15-2008, 8:55 AM 1354 in reply to 1320

    Re: Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

    Hi John,

    I would like a copy of your paper. it sound very interesting.

  •  05-13-2008, 9:25 PM 1442 in reply to 1320

    Re: Argon Depletion in Insulated Windows

    Hi John,

    This is my first post so hopefully it will come through ok.  Recently attended Level 1 training,  excellent.  Would recommend to anyone/everyone.  I would like to obtain a copy of your report on Argon Depletion in Insulated windows.  This is a constant issue in my field.  mtaengineers@insightbb.com

     

    Thanks,

    Mike

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