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Accounting for Temperature Changes

Last post 06-12-2009, 7:50 AM by Rob Spring. 4 replies.
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  •  05-11-2009, 3:36 PM 3035

    Accounting for Temperature Changes

    I'm wondering if there's a reliable method of accounting for, say, a ten-degree drop during the progress of a whole-house scan after sunset. Thanks for any light you can shed!  


    Lorna Fear
    (650) 520 4869
    San Francisco Bay Area
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  •  05-11-2009, 5:29 PM 3037 in reply to 3035

    Re: Accounting for Temperature Changes

    Where is the temp. drop you are talking about. Looking at a house from the outside I would expect that to happen. If you are talking about the inside you might have to give us some more info. Do you have any pics?

    Regards


    Jeremy Kays Reliability Technician
    Level II IR, MCA / UE Level I, In Compliance with the ASNT guidelines
    X-Ray Eyes
    xrayeyesjl@hotmail.com
    www.xrayeyesonline.com

  •  05-12-2009, 5:02 PM 3047 in reply to 3035

    Re: Accounting for Temperature Changes

    Be aware too that the issue is not just a drop in AIR temperature but also, if skies are clear, that the building surfaces open to the sky can radiate enough energy to that clear sky to drop by an even greater margin. As an example, you can find frost on surfaces when air temperatures are ABOVE freezing.
    Thermally Yours,

    John
    ASNT NDT Level III #48166
    The Snell Group
    www.thesnellgroup.com
    www.thermalsolutions.org
    800-636-9820
  •  06-11-2009, 8:14 PM 3138 in reply to 3047

    Re: Accounting for Temperature Changes

    I did an exterior  scan last fall, early October. The ambient exterior temperature was about 10 degrees C at 8:00 in the morning. I was shocked when the camera was telling me that the stucco was actually frozen! It showed -4 to -6 C! I remember hearing about this phenomenon during my Level I training, but didn't realy believe it until I experienced it.


    Darrell Paul
    Building Envelope Specialist - Wood Frame
    Certified Energy Advisor
    Certified Moisture Control Technician
    Level I Thermographer
    403-586-1950
    www.qualistat.com
  •  06-12-2009, 7:50 AM 3139 in reply to 3035

    Re: Accounting for Temperature Changes

    You asked for a reliable method for accounting for temperature change during an inspection. This brings up quite a few issues that need to be addressed before answering. What is(was) the indoor and outdoor surface  temperatures.  According to ASTM 1060, we need stable surface temperature differences in order to create the thermal contrast needed to see framing and insulation. Stable means at least 3 hours. So if you are arriving at the building with little or no temperature difference and then over the course of an hour or so the temperature drops 10 degrees, in all likely hood the building will not have time to react to this temperature difference to allow a thorough IR inspection. If on the other hand the outside temperature at sunset was 85F (70F inside) and during the inspection the temperature dropped to 75F you will most likely be in good shape because the building mass will not have cooled during the inspection time.

     Give us some specifics and we'll be able to respond with more detail.

     Rob


    Rob Spring, P.E.
    ASNT NDT LIII #65375
    The Snell Group
    rspring@thesnellgroup.com
    800-636-9820
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